Yeah, I think I agree with this sentiment. Options are a cost in and of themselves.
I prefer the square corners, but I prefer even more to have everything be simpler and have fewer options. There’s way too much complexity in our products and if every time there’s a change it gets an option to change it back, we end up even more complicated and new users are completely overwhelmed and don’t bother learning how to do anything with Virtualmin because they think it’s too technical for them.
In short: I don’t care enough about square corners to make the UI more complicated, including the UI for configuring Virtualmin and how it looks.
If the option is to improve readability then just making the separating lines a tad larger, or Heaven forbid, darker. Perhaps it’s may age and eyesight but I’m getting pretty damned tired of all the light gray popping up all over the place. I see rounded corners as more gimmicky than useful.
EDIT: Seriously, why even bother with these separator lines?
You know we’re not even in the same category of memory usage as any of those, right? Because we don’t think that way, and we do begin to get grumpy when processes sizes of our stuff grows beyond megabytes and into gigabytes (nothing we build is measured in GBs, or even close to it).
It’s kind of offensive you’d suggest we’re shipping bloated software or don’t care about bloat.
Not meant to suggest that. The article is more about the progression on how it got to that.
But it is about the issue of creep and doing things, just cuz. Dim the separator lines and then add rounded corners to make up the diminished delineation? I think it is about the focus. People report real issues. Why even think about rounded corners?
It is meant to bring more focus, too. Some people clearly mentioned this. I see it, too.
And the catastrophe humanity faces today largely comes from human nature itself. Despite all our tech progress, we still waste huge amounts of money. A few modern nuclear plants could easily cover our energy needs, and power wouldn’t be a problem. But as long as we keep drilling and doing things the old way, the future doesn’t look too bright.
I agree—we do care about the resources our products use. And honestly, rounded corners won’t make any meaningful difference in that regard.
Again, I didn’t even notice round vs square corners till this came up and I started looking for them. They both show up and I never really paid attention or noticed.
The virtualmin install script not working out of the box? How many people tried the script, decided Virtualmin was broken and just moved on because even at free it wasn’t worth it. We’ll never know. Pretty much like me not noticing square vs round corners? But, I’ve given my opinion. I don’t care about the corners. I care about the functionality. So, I’m pretty much out of this.
What are you talking about? This conversation is about Authentic theme in Webmin/Virtualmin. Not about the forum (which you’ve shown a screenshot above, and I guess that’s what you mean?).
If you want to talk about the forum design, we certainly can…but not in this thread about rounded corners in Authentic Theme in Virtualmin/Webmin.
I have mentioned my solution to all of the members of the team which would allow for template development after the fact, allow designs for all taste so I wont mention it again.
But, if Authentic theme is getting redeveloped (as-is), does that mean the framed theme will become obsolete as it will not have the new code?
Only @Ilia can redo authentic theme because of the logic code in it, I am not experienced enough to touch logic code that is not mine.
A user making a theme is pointless if you have to constantly copy and paste code from another theme to keep things working. This would inevitably happen and is another reason I would avoid this.
The framed theme is classed as basic but has separate code I have seen separate problems needing fixing in both this and authentic separately.
I have never used framed so I can’t comment on how useful the styling is.
I just don’t understand why a shared code base for the template is a bad idea. Is it a lot more work if every page of authentic theme is getting rewritten.
P.s. I am not underplaying the amount of work, I am looking more from pushing the project forward, community plugins, community skins. Etc…
And yes, it is not my project. This is just feedback.
No harm here, but it’s ridiculous to think it will attract new members . It doesn’t work this way. The only think which can attract new members (Unfortunately) is MARKETING CAMPAIGN (As already said over and over ….) ?
Then as long as we have both I don’t understand we have a topic about it ….
I am on about a completely separate theming system.
Initially it would not attract new users but once finalised I believe it would free Virtualmin/Webmin from previous constraints. If a community can develop their own themes and use them, this is a positive.
for instance, a user was on about how he could get a module to display on the home page, as it happens this module does not have this functionality but I thought, if he could develop (copy Authentic and then edit) his own theme he could add code in to add that functionality but not break Virtualmin.
to think it will attract new members 
. It doesn’t work this way. The only think which can attract new members (Unfortunately) is MARKETING CAMPAIGN (As already said over and over ….) ?