Got a red flag from my traffic inspector two devices on network with same IP essentially was the flag however I can only locate a single device with that IP so something is odd there port 10000 don’t open the webmin and port 20000 don’t open the usermin login either.
Oddly I can login to my KVM system without a hiccup.
If there are two devices on the same IP, assuming the traffic inspector is correct, how do you know you are trying to login to the correct machine? KVM of course bypasses that problem.