Some clarification disk quotas and plans - where do i set them

shoulders · June 3, 2026, 3:23pm

SYSTEM INFORMATION
OS type and version	Ubuntu Linux 22.04.5
Webmin version	2.641
Usermin version	2.540
Virtualmin version	8.1.0 GPL
Theme version	26.41
Apache version	2.4.52
Package updates	All installed packages are up to date

So I am just trying to evaluate one of my GitHub issues but it has been a while and there are many changes.

github.com/virtualmin/virtualmin-gpl

Bug: 'Account Plan' and 'Edit Owner Limits' pages do not match

opened 03:59PM - 16 Nov 23 UTC

shoulders

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| SYSTEM INFORMATION|| |----------------------|---------------------------| | …OS type and version | Ubuntu Linux 22.04.3 | | Webmin version | 2.101 | | Usermin version | 2.001 | | Virtualmin version | 7.8.2 | | Theme version | 21.04 | | Package updates | 8 package updates are available, of which 1 is security update | ## The issue overview The following 2 pages do not match: - Virtualmin -->Administration Options --> Edit Owner Limits --> Server Owner Limits - Virtualmin -->System Settings --> Account Plans -->'any plan' --> Edit Account Plan This can be confusing because the settings in `Account Plans` are pushed to this page, so they should match so the end users can match the settings in `Account Plans` to those applied on the `Server Owner Limits` page. There is also inconsistency in the naming of the options. ## Why should you fix this This will make using `Account Plans` easier to use because the option names will match and the page layouts will be the same, but now organised into better categories. Going forwards it will be a lot easier to add new options into the account plan and owner limits. ## Specific Issues - **The accordion headings are different** - 'Edit Account Plan' - Basic plan details - Allowed virtual server features - Allowed capabilities - 'Server Owner Limits' - Virtualmin limits for server owner - Allowed capabilities and features - Other restrictions (this is fine as is, but really it's settings should either be in an account plan or a server template) - **Different Option names** - the options under `Basic plan details` and `virtualmin limits for server owner` are different - **`Default available features` are different on each page** - in Server Owner Limits this is called `Edit capabilities for virtual servers` - in Server Owner Limits this is in `Allowed capabilities and features` not `Allowed virtual server features` - `Automatic, based on initial features` should be renamed to `Automatic`, if people want to know why they should look a the tooltip - the location of this section is wrong, it should be before capabilities - there - **`Default editing capabilities` are different on each page** - in Server Owner Limits this is called `Allowed features for servers` - in Server Owner Limits this is in `Allowed capabilities and features` not `Allowed capabilities` - The location of this section is wrong. It should be after features. - **In account plans, there are extra options in 'Allowed Virtual server features'** - These are present in `Account Plans` but not in the `Server Owner Limits` page - Administration user - Home directory - Apache SSL website - Log file rotation ## Solution I have done some mockups (below) of each of the pages and then listed the changes. I can supply the originals before I made the mockups, I just did not want to overload the initial request. I think you will find these new pages much easier to understand and should mostly be a cosmetic change. ### Inconsistencies I could not remedy between the two pages - Server owner - has `Maximum allowed sub-servers and aliases`, `Edit Account Plan` does not have an equivalent unless it is `Maximum allowed virtual servers`, in which case I have already renamed this this to be `Maximum allowed virtual servers`. - has an extra option called `Sub-servers inherit IP address from parent` - should this be in the `Account Plan` as-well, if not it might need it's own section or putting in `Other restrictions`. ### Edit Account Plan ![Edit-Account-Plan-NEW](https://github.com/virtualmin/virtualmin-gpl/assets/319997/0aaa09b3-5b88-496c-97a9-b81ee7e22384) - split `Basic plan details` into: - `Plan Details` - `Quotas and Bandwidth` - `Limits` - `Options` - renamed `Allowed virtual server features` accordion header to `Features` - renamed `Allowed capabilities` accordion header to `Permissions` - in `Limits` i renamed: - Limit on number of users --> Maximum allowed users - Limit on number of aliases --> Maximum allowed email aliases - Limit on number of databases --> Maximum allowed databases - Limit on number of virtual servers --> Maximum allowed virtual servers - Limit on number of non-alias servers --> Maximum allowed sub-servers - Limit on number of alias servers --> Maximum allowed alias servers - in `Features` - I added a red star next to each one not present in `Server Owner Limits` page. - Administration user - Home directory - Apache SSL website - Log file rotation - I renamed `Automatic, based on initial features` --> `Automatic`. Users should look at the tooltip as to what this means - in `Permissions` - I renamed `Automatic, based on other limits` --> `Automatic`. Users should look at the tooltip as to what this means ### Server Owner Limits ![Server-Owner-Limits-NEW](https://github.com/virtualmin/virtualmin-gpl/assets/319997/a9485d6f-f065-4002-bbf3-be6068abf454) - i have split `Virtualmin limits for server owner` accordion heading into `Limits` and `Options` - in `Limits` - I have renamed `Maximum allowed sub-servers and aliases` -->`Maximum allowed virtual servers` **I took a guess on this one** - I have renamed ` Maximum allowed aliases` --> `Maximum allowed alias servers` - i have split `Allowed capabilities and features` accordion heading into `Features` and `Permissions`

In the Edit Account Plan I can set a disk quota and a bandwidth quote but I can not find this in Manage Virtual Server --> Edit Owner Limits. Are these values now pulled directly from the plan or is there somewhere else these are set per server?

Virtualmin -->System Settings --> Account Plans -->'any plan' --> Edit Account Plan

any help would be appreciated.

stefan1959 · June 3, 2026, 10:02pm

Do you mean here

shoulders · June 3, 2026, 10:47pm

Where is that?

stefan1959 · June 3, 2026, 10:57pm

Edit Virtual Server under Quotas and Limits

shoulders · June 4, 2026, 7:19am

Thanks, I think this is the same issue I had when I originally did my GitHub issue but things have been moved around since.

I will go an look at my notes etc.. and maybe reframe my GitHub issue.

jimr1 · June 4, 2026, 7:42am

maybe this is what your looking for IDK

this sets up the default quota when a virtual server is created

shoulders · June 4, 2026, 7:56am

that’s the one i did find , but thanks for looking at this for me.

I think that the quotas should be set in the plan and read from the plan rather than being stored and edited after the fact in the virtual server. I know there is a save and apply button so I need to re-look at the logic before I make or do not make suggestions. I think the way it works now is the value is stored in the virtual server and when you edit a plan you have the option of pushing the changes, but I think the values should be pulled from the plan, perhaps with local overrides in the virtual server.

jimr1 · June 4, 2026, 9:17am

I disagree this is fine if your business modal has fixed plans e.g 1gb ,5gb. 10gb quotas but if your in a different market which allows customisation of the disk quota then the current idea works better for example if a user pays for 15gb my billing system runs

virtualmin modify-domain --domain mydomain.com --quota 15728640

which will set a 15gb quota
however the quota figure is in blocks so you do have to work out your block size using

stat -f /

for me it would be better if the virtualmin command allowed ‘normal’ figures such as 1gb , 500mb . 1tb rather than doing the maths to work out how many blocks the new quota will be.
my maths is 15 GB = (15 × 2097152) /2

shoulders · June 4, 2026, 9:38am

We discussed this a while ago and there used to be a save and a save and apply so I think the save button now does what the save and apply use to do so you can never edit a plan that a user is on otherwise those changes would be pushed to the user.

If thesave button does not function how I mentioned above, i.e. it just saves the plan and does not push the changed, will you let me know.

I have not looked at this in detail, but in general GB/MB options rather than setting a block size is much more friendly.

My preferred option is to keep the plan as the definer of the quota but with local overrides which would allow better logic and would fit with what you want and what I would like.