CSF is being discontinued

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I’d also add:

  • People trust Webmin/Virtualmin (so you have more chance of people adopting it)
  • CSF users have realised that OSS needs support, so you could possibly look at ‘charging a small annual fee for support’ - even if something as little as $10 a year.

I’m sure there are thousands of people using CSF that would be more than happy to pay $10 a year. it could add up pretty quick! Plus like you said, it could also get people to try VM :slight_smile:

Given that the *min users’ willingness to pay could certainly be better – as one can gather between the lines from various posts – and considering that the development team consists of just a handful of people who (with one exception) already don’t work on *min full-time, I’d see a CSF takeover as, at the very least, questionable.

Leaving aside questions of priority and resource allocation, the team would be taking on more work for less financial return. Those who haven’t paid for CSF so far won’t do so in future either. The same goes for *min Pro.

The question, then, is whether the potential prestige gained from such an acquisition would ultimately outweigh the extra effort involved in maintaining yet another product in the portfolio.

With it being GPL now it would be hard to license it.

don’t think anyone proposed relicensing. original copyright holder opensourced csf, and since it’s foss noone can take over and relicense.
and don’t think team’s idea was to change license. just to take over maintenance (repos, etc). if i understood correctly the idea..

Someone mentioned about licensing it for $10 a seat above. It was more a response to that.

if you re-read, they mention “annual fee for support”, not selling a product license.

Same thing to me :grin:

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It’s a well used program. I don’t think the current team has the resources to develop and support it. There seems to be one very healthy fork already mentioned in this thread. A natural successor will probably emerge.

Hi everyone,
I’m wondering what firewall alternatives you are using or planning to use.
Have you migrated to something else, or started using the Aetherinox/csf-firewall fork?
It seems to be the most mature option at the moment.

The webmin/virtualmin defaults are firewalld and fail2ban, there ls nothing to migrate to, csf is an option you can install to replace the defaults

There is something to migrate for many people who use Webmin/Virtualmin.
My question is mainly directed at those who were already using CSF.
That’s one of the main points mentioned in the original post — “I don’t use CSF but I know a lot of folks here do.”

still waiting for some fork to “mature”.
so far, Aetherinox seems the most promising.

But we have no idea of who that is.

Webmin/Virtualmin has been around for a long time - there is a lot of trust in it..

(Btw is it possible to remove the topic timer from this thread? Be good to keep this one active/available)

code is open you can check it out. you don’t have to trust any person.. (didn’t know the previous team behind csf either…)
there’s already a lot of people migrating to this fork and it looks very active.. personally, gonna wait for it to “mature” some more/check more things about it, before migrating current csf setup.
afaik, there’s no other csf fork so active as this one..

and don’t see how webmin/virtualmin is relevant to the continuation of csf (?) the webmin/virtualmin team won’t fork/maintain it (if i understood correctly).. it’s only up to the team(?) to support the webmin module (hope so!).. but anyway, i like csf, gonna keep using it as long as it is working, regardless of the webmin module.. cli works fine for me. (and tbh, don’t like firewalld :slight_smile: )

2c.

I agree with this

And little by little he, the successor of CSF, collects more stars and other contributors, solves every day whatever problems arise, has created a discord.configserver.dev (which I personally do not like as an application, I would prefer a forum like the one CSF originally had), builds more and more advanced docs, his blocklists work amazingly and this programmer deals with everyone with courtesy, pays attention even to “stupidity”, or small things, with immediacy, speed and knowledge.
I have been using his CSF in Webmin since September 22 and it is certainly quite superior as a product compared to the older one. Since for every problem the solution comes immediately and since you notice that there is someone who dynamically and passionately evolves the program without changing its essence. In fact, I am a fan of both CSF and Aetherinox’s work.

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