Centos 7 released today (Monday)
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html
So… any estimates on how long till we see Virtualmin upgraded to support 7? Hours/Days/Weeks/Months? Just so I can schedule my week 
I have been doing some preliminary testing over the past few weeks with a few 3rd party wares, including Virtualmin, and it will take time to add support for this release properly. There are even more substantial changes with this major release than there was with Ubuntu’s recent release - ensuring support is one of my main goals.
In my opinion, as a user, we are looking at about 3 months before support comes on the horizon. We can get started quicker if many users like yourself take the liberty of looking at the install code, package configurations, and virtualmin components, and start trying to setup a EL7 based system
Howdy,
We have been doing some preparation using RHEL7.
It’s likely to take us longer than a few days to have support for that and CentOS 7.
But I also hope it takes us less than “months” to get that ready
A few noteable large changes –
RHEL7 (and I assume CentOS 7) uses XFS as the default filesystem. We haven’t done much testing with that yet, and we’d like to make sure that Virtualmin’s quota support for that filesystem works well.
The Apache config files were moved around a bit.
And much to my surprise, the “ifconfig” command is no longer installed by default, and when it is installed, the output is different than previously.
We’ve updated the installer to make sure it supports those changes, and Joe and Jamie are currently at work updating our Virtualmin repository, as well as adding in support for the above changes.
We should have support out for all that soon!
-Eric
A few days is great, I can fiddle with Centos a bit myself before trying to put it to work.
Well, just to clarify, I’m saying more than a few days, but less than a few months
-Eric
So if I’m reading this right, that means it is NOT wise to upgrade to CentOS 7 just yet if we are using Virtualmin, correct? It’ll be advisable perhaps to upgrade to CentOS 7 once Virtualmin and other critical apps support it, right?
Virtualmin does not yet support CentOS 7… trying to use it would likely cause many problems, and we don’t recommend it until we announce CentOS 7 support.
In the past, RHEL/CentOS hasn’t supported performing upgrades from one distro version to another, they required you perform a migration to a new server.
It sounds like RHEL/CentOS are developing tools to perform such an upgrade for CentOS 6 to 7, but according to the CentOS 7 release notes they’re still being tested and aren’t released yet.
Information regarding that is here:
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS7#head-fff8f6a835097f88dd3c7b1fea51ac75669c68d3
Great to hear that you are working towards making CentOS 7 a supported system.
Where would be the best place to watch to be aware of when it is supported fully?
Howdy,
Once support is ready, we’ll announce that in the News forum. We’ll also put that on our Twitter feed.
-Eric
Thanks for your work as always. Look forward to seeing the update, but happy to wait until everything is ironed out
Hi,
Historically, it’s wise to wait up to 6 months beyond the date a new OS is released before giving it a try in a production environment as things tend to change rapidly, and/or bugs are found which need to be squashed.
Even as Joe and Jamie work hard to make Virtualmin capable of running on CentOS 7, you need to keep in mind that they too need time to work through any quirks related to the changes in CentOS and so my thought remains, you really should give up to 6 months to see where CentOS/Virtualmin are at before committing to it.
That’s my two cents on the topic, and it seems to have worked well within our business
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The Centos 5 -> 6 conversion wasn’t that bad, just a short wait from the time SL6 was released till Virtualmin supported it. The patches were immediately forthcoming for each bug I found, and I am sure it was just a week or so. Maybe 2?
But, this version has a LOT of changes in the OS, so lets see how it plays out this time
Yeah, there are indeed a lot of changes, but we’re hoping to have support for CentOS 7 available in the not-too-distant future. We’ll post an update once it’s ready for some beta testing
-Eric
I am installing two or three new CentOS 7 servers in Q3/4 of this year.
One is a replacement for an older Zentyal server and we are quite
sure we want “Centos7 / LAMP / usermin / webmin / virtualmin” as a
relatively safe plan for the ‘in case I get hit by a truck’ worst case scenario.
The second is a high traffic web server and the third is an internal
intranet server. Similar setups.
I am willing to beta test the CentOS 7 install script while setting up
these units. I am new to systemd so parts of the setup are new
to me, but so was MS-DOS 3.3 at one time.
Currently running Fedora, Ubuntu, and (yes it’s old) Trustix.
- UnklAdM
here are my 0 cents, so I can subscribe to this thread 
jumping on eddieb’s train 
We’re hoping to release a beta version of the CentOS 7 support very soon. Joe had hoped it would be as early as today, but that may have been a little too optimistic… but it will be soon
The beta version is just for testing, and we’re sure there will be some issues in it since so much has changed between CentOS 6 and CentOS 7.
But for anyone who wants to try it out and see how it goes, we’d welcome your input! I’ll post an announcement here in this thread once it’s ready.
-Eric
That’ll be cool. Trying the set up a CentOS 7 box with puppet.
Is it available somewhere or still in progress?
I’m waiting on this too
Sorry guys, it’s taking longer than we had hoped! Currently, Jamie is working on a screen in the post-install to (optionally) handle modifying the grub boot options.
Due to RHEL/CentOS 7’s change to XFS as the default filesystem, quotas won’t work unless the kernel boot options are changed in the grub config.
We have a meeting later today, I should get an idea of how things are coming along at that point.
-Eric