Alma v Rocky To Replace CentOS

I am still running CentOS 7 but updates etc are not available, I have a backup server running Alma8.10 with a virtualmin GPL which I think I may have done an upgrade conversion on, as it still has CentOS Repos.

But my main server and Pro Virtualmin I need to make a choice, apart from the debate over ownership of the products what Pro’s & Cons of running Virtualmin on either have you encountered which seems the best option to switch to?

Many thanks…

Either, they basically the same, I really know no difference as they just copies of RHEL. I think the only difference would be how the releases come out.

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I use Rocky. Many Virtualmin folks use both Rocky and Alma. I don’t think there’s any notable technical reason to choose one or the other. I chose Rocky because I trust the founder (also one of the founders of CentOS). Alma also has a good reputation, AFAIK. You can convert and upgrade your CentOS 7 system to either Rocky on Alma, in place. I have only used the migrate2rocky.sh tool, but I assume the Alma equivalent also works fine.

Pick the one that seems friendliest to you in terms of docs and community. As far as I can tell, both have pretty strong financial and community backing.

Neither is a pure rebuild of RHEL at this point due to changes in the way Red Hat provides access to source, and I think both diverge in minor ways from time to time. But, from the perspective of Virtualmin they should be virtually identical and we’ll support them as best we can.

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Some reasons for choosing Alma:

  • When I was looking (before Ubuntu) I was going to go with Alma and one of the deciding factors was the Alma guys made Elevate which allows migrations to Alma and they made the code public so other migration paths were viable, not just an Alma end point.
  • I found their blog much more focused on the end user rather than corporations.
  • cPanel has used Alma as their new base OS.
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I used Alma to good success before I decided to jump to Debian instead. I noticed no discernible differences between the times I used CentOS or RHEL. It’d be nice to see Alma and Rocky pool resources, perhaps, in the future…

After switching my GPL backup server to Alma I thought I would switch to Rocky but it seems to have all gone wrong, but still working. As neither Alma or Rocky will update to 9 a fresh install will be required and best option.

I have decided to go with Rocky, for no other reason than Joe seems happy with it :grinning:

Having looked at many of the on-line discussions I can not see there is much difference that would effect me and from what I have read, it is easy to switch between the two at any time

My backup server has only one domain so I will test that first and check all is good, it has been running Alma for a while without problems.

Thanks for the contributions…

Not really “on topic”, but also not a million miles off topic.

If you really can’t upgrade a centos 7 machine for whatever reason, there is always tuxcare. They offer ELS services for up to 5 years after official eol.

But upgrading is always better. Personally we use AlmaLinux, both 8 and 9. Upgrade in place is possible, but as always: make a good backup first

Regards
Jan

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Would that make a difference if Virtualmin no longer support Centos 7?

You’ll be able to continue to use CentOS 7 or RHEL 7 for at least another year or so, as we take a while to start using newer Perl versions or other changes that would lead to incompatibilities.

That said, we don’t support distros that are EOL in their public/open version. We won’t break it, probably, but we aren’t going to go out of our way to solve problems with EOL distros. If you have to pay to get updates, we’re not supporting it as a grade A supported OS. It’s just too much for our small team to maintain test infrastructure for very old distros and to commit to testing across all of them, as we already support too many distros and versions for comfort. Adding monetary costs, when our budget is already stretched is another negative.

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