You’re complaining about a non-issue. It works as it is. People are already using it.
There’s also Debian 10 that is already fully supported that you conveniently ignore. You’re desperately trying to create an issue where there isn’t one.
If you were lazy enough to hang around on Debian 9 until it passed end of life without bothering to upgrade to Debian 10 in that entire time, why suddenly the desperation to have a “certified” installer for Debian 11 that was just released 11 months ago?
Seriously. It’s like you’re complaining about having no gas available at your local gas station because you don’t want what’s in the pump already, you want what’s in the truck that hasn’t arrived at the gas station yet.
Maybe you should not interfere. You are making assumptions about using an EOL OS version and not using the beta installer.
I waited until Debian 11’s release and then indeed waited for the installer which has been promised for quite a while, and it is very likely that I am not the only one.
No, I’m not. I’m pointing out the fact that you’re complaining about an installer that actually works while living on an end of life OS rather than upgrading to a fully supported OS that was released three years ago.
You are funny, Gomez. The only fact is that Debian 10 was released 3 years ago. Funny, and normally positive, but in this case not very constructive as you aren’t addressing my concerns. Admitted, these are a bit reflective and not very concrete, but they are honest. Maybe Joe, Ilia, or even Jamie can share a light.
Again, this is not about the beta installer. I decided to use it some time ago, as I am fairly sure that I can handle possible unforeseen side effects, and did not want to use Debian 10 and upgrade to 11 later on.
It is about the installer still being beta and previously being not available for months, resulting in Virtualmin not properly supporting Debian 11 - although I don’t want to rub this in. However to me, it seems legit to question how this could have happened, if you agree that this might impact the number of users, what could have been done differently in retrospect, and if/how this can be prevented in the future.
You are getting even more cynical. If it was all about me, I would have contacted you at the time I needed it. However I do think it would be great if Virtualmin would support one of the main Linux server distros’ current version as soon as possible - just like it always has until now. Maybe I have taken this for granted, but it is the kind of reliability people like to build upon.
Over and out from me. I would still love to hear anything addressing the questions I am raising.
Again, it does. You’ve been told that by two different people. It is stated on this site multiple times. People have been using Virtualmin on Debian 11 since May.
But you don’t care about that. For some odd reason, you keep complaining about an issue that literally does not exist.
What’s more, it sort of smacks of lunacy when by your own admission you’ve been using Virtualmin since somewhere around 5 years time and never once posted until now.
That tells me that you should have known by now how this works and how they progress. Frankly, I think you’re just here to make a scene, because once again, you’re complaining about an issue that literally does not exist.
Official Virtualmin 7 release is coming soon. However, there will be almost no change compared to the current beta installer. Even though you’re using beta installer you will receive stable release of Virtualmin 7.1, that will continue to work after the official release.
Although, there are known minor bugs in Virtualmin 7.1, which will be fixed with Virtualmin 7.2, the installer and the packages installed -won’t change at all.
If you need to upgrade to Debian 11, please just don’t hesitate and do it any time you wish.
Maybe Gomez is right and I made some sort of a scene eventually. However I am sincerely interested in how this could have taken the time it took and if there are ways to speed this up. Maybe I or others could have been of assistance.
One of the features I have liked about Debian is the ability to upgrade the system to newer versions without have to wipe the box.
I’m relatively new to Virtualmin. The box I am using it on runs Debian 10 right now. I’m using Virtualmin version 7.1 of with Webmin 1.994.
Based on what I am understanding in this thread, are there any opinions on just updating the box to the stable version of Debian 11? Has anyone tried this? Did it work okay?
Stay on Debian 10 for now. After all, you’ve still got two more years before end of life, so there’s no rush. The only sure fire way I know of right now to upgrade to 11 is a fresh install with the Beta installer.
I’m sure either @Joe or @Ilia will weigh in eventually to correct that if it’s wrong.
