Questions about Virtualmin to a VPS-server.

Hi,

I have some question before we are trying setup Virtualmin/Cloudmin on our VPS-server:

  1. Do it proivde script installs on GPL or only Pro? Because we would like to offer this to our customers.
  2. Can Virtualmin control several VPS-servers, or should we use Cloudmin for this, than Virtualmin?
  3. Do it works well with WHMCS? How are your experiences with Virtualmin/Cloudmin and WHMCS?
  4. Possible to have addons like additional bandwidth, storage, IP address or domains etc?
  5. Possible to make our own (template/theme) control panel to our customers, similar to branding theme?
  6. Are there easy to modify "Default website page" to our newly established customers or "Account move" or "Account suspended" or "Account have overbalanced eg. bandwidth"?
  7. We have a lot of Drupal customers, is this a right "platform"/control panel for us, and will this give the Drupal users more happy experiences?
  8. The last, why is Virtualmin/Cloudmin actually much better than cPanel which we have more experience from before? Can you try to convince us to use Virtualmin/Cloudmin?

Howdy,

Do it proivde script installs on GPL or only Pro? Because we would like to offer this to our customers.

Virtualmin GPL provides 5 or 6 Install Scripts, Virtualmin Pro provides over 100.

Can Virtualmin control several VPS-servers, or should we use Cloudmin for this, than Virtualmin?

Virtualmin controls one server environment.

If you want to control multiple VPS’s, you may want to look into Cloudmin – Cloudmin can control VPS’s, as well as tie multiple Virtualmin instances together into one control panel.

Do it works well with WHMCS? How are your experiences with Virtualmin/Cloudmin and WHMCS?

WHMCS works with both Virtualmin Pro and GPL.

Possible to have addons like additional bandwidth, storage, IP address or domains etc?

I’m not exactly sure what you mean there…

Virtualmin does allow you to add additional bandwidth, storage, and IP addresses though.

Possible to make our own (template/theme) control panel to our customers, similar to branding theme?

It’s possible to create a theme, though that’s not currently a simple thing to do. We hope to improve that at some point :slight_smile:

Are there easy to modify “Default website page” to our newly established customers or “Account move” or “Account suspended” or “Account have overbalanced eg. bandwidth”?

It’s possible to modify most of the email templates that are used in Virtualmin.

We have a lot of Drupal customers, is this a right “platform”/control panel for us, and will this give the Drupal users more happy experiences?

Well, Virtualmin and Drupal are separate. One shouldn’t affect the other. If you use Virtualmin Pro, that’ll make installing and updating Drupal simple, via the Install Scripts. But otherwise, the two don’t typically interact with each other. However, Drupal will run just fine on a server running Virtualmin.

The last, why is Virtualmin/Cloudmin actually much better than cPanel which we have more experience from before? Can you try to convince us to use Virtualmin/Cloudmin?

You can see the differences of Virtualmin GPL and Pro, as well as a comparison to cPanel, here:

http://virtualmin.com/compare.html

We’d encourage you to try it out, perhaps in a virtual environment (such as Virtualbox), to see how it works and how you could use it. You can also see a demo using the “Demo” link at the top of the page.

-Eric

Thank you for your answers:

I have more question, can I transfer my backups from cPanel to Virtualmin?

Do it proivde script installs on GPL or only Pro? Because we would like to offer this to our customers.
Virtualmin GPL provides 5 or 6 Install Scripts, Virtualmin Pro provides over 100.
Do you have the list of what GPL provides 5 or 6 Install Scripts and Pro?

Can Virtualmin control several VPS-servers, or should we use Cloudmin for this, than Virtualmin
Virtualmin controls one server environment. If you want to control multiple VPS’s, you may want to look into Cloudmin – Cloudmin can control VPS’s, as well as tie multiple Virtualmin instances together into one control panel.
Do you have some images or something as explain how Cloudmin works? Since there is a bit unclear for us to understand about your products on your website.

I just try to make sure I understand the right way, if we today have two VPS servers. Then we would need two Virtualmin, and one Cloudmin to connect these two Virtualmin? Or Cloudmin with at least two access, and not even need Virtualmin?

Then we wonder about Cloudmin acting on the same way as Virtualmin, also do Cloudmin have all same features as Virtualmin?

Possible to have addons like additional bandwidth, storage, IP address or domains etc?
I’m not exactly sure what you mean there… Virtualmin does allow you to add additional bandwidth, storage, and IP addresses though.
We just wanted to make sure that the control panel can gives addons needs to our customer accounts via WHMCS.

Possible to make our own (template/theme) control panel to our customers, similar to branding theme?
It’s possible to create a theme, though that’s not currently a simple thing to do. We hope to improve that at some point :slight_smile:
Where do we find documentation about this? And how difficult is this right now? Since we have plan to create a Drupal site, and use eventually API where our customers can go into our own Drupal control panel and add new email, FTP-accounts etc. Is there possible?

Are there easy to modify “Default website page” to our newly established customers or “Account move” or “Account suspended” or “Account have overbalanced eg. bandwidth”?
It’s possible to modify most of the email templates that are used in Virtualmin.
I was not thinking about email template, but website page, also when new account is created. There comes standard webpages. And eventuelly when it is suspended or the account is moving. We want to have a template as telling to the visitors.

The last, why is Virtualmin/Cloudmin actually much better than cPanel which we have more experience from before? Can you try to convince us to use Virtualmin/Cloudmin?
You can see the differences of Virtualmin GPL and Pro, as well as a comparison to cPanel, here: http://virtualmin.com/compare.html We’d encourage you to try it out, perhaps in a virtual environment (such as Virtualbox), to see how it works and how you could use it. You can also see a demo using the “Demo” link at the top of the page.
Thanks for useful link. Demo isn’t working, we have tried yesterday and today, but still getting the message: “Service Temporarily Unavailable”.

Do you have the list of what GPL provides 5 or 6 Install Scripts and Pro?

You can see the Virtualmin Pro Install scripts here:

http://virtualmin.com/documentation/install-scripts

There isn’t a list of GPL install scripts, though it’s mostly some email clients, phpMyAdmin, Django, and WHMCS.

Do you have some images or something as explain how Cloudmin works? Since there is a bit unclear for us to understand about your products on your website.

You can read about Cloudmin here:

http://virtualmin.com/documentation/cloudmin

We just wanted to make sure that the control panel can gives addons needs to our customer accounts via WHMCS.

I’m not sure how the various WHMCS features plug into Virtualmin… I think that would work, though you may need to take a look at WHMCS to be sure.

Where do we find documentation about this? And how difficult is this right now? Since we have plan to create a Drupal site, and use eventually API where our customers can go into our own Drupal control panel and add new email, FTP-accounts etc. Is there possible?

Creating a new theme is extremely difficult, I wouldn’t really even recommend trying :slight_smile: We hope to simplify that though!

However, there is an API, where you can interact with Virtualmin via the command line and a web service… and that may be a simpler way to achieve that, especially from within Drupal.

You can read about that here:

Command line API

http://virtualmin.com/documentation/developer/cli

Remote (web service) API

http://virtualmin.com/documentation/developer/http

Could you give me more clear answer about Cloudmin? Since the link you gave me includes a lot other informations. I am mostly interesting to know what is different between Virtualmin and Cloudmin plus what we should have when we have two VPS-server and 2 dedicated server?

The same about API. I don’t see any list about what we can get info and what we can send data.

Could you refer us to the right page about Cloudmin plus API remote?

I am mostly interesting to know what is different between Virtualmin and Cloudmin plus what we should have when we have two VPS-server and 2 dedicated server?

Virtualmin is a tool for managing a shared hosting web server.

Cloudmin can provision VPS’s, and can also tie in multiple Virtualmin instances.

If you just want to tie 2 VPS’s and 2 dedicated servers together, Cloudmin for Physical Systems should do the trick.

If you also want it to be able to provision new VPS’s, one of the Cloudmin N Pro licenses may be what you’re after.

They don’t have overlapping functionality – they work together.

The same about API. I don’t see any list about what we can get info and what we can send data.

The links I mentioned should describe all the data that you can send and receive from Virtualmin’s APIs.

Also, there is information here on Cloudmin’s APIs:

http://virtualmin.com/documentation/cloudmin/devel/cli

http://virtualmin.com/documentation/cloudmin/devel/remote

Thanks for much better answers! :slight_smile:

  1. Just wonder how much can Cloudmin handle VPS? Because we are planning to use a shared-hosting, and we will increase the VPS servers if we need more storage. So there is more easier for us to control the shared-hosting with just one control panel.

  2. If we start with a Virtualmin right now, can we in future migrate from Virtualmin to Cloudmin?

  3. Possible restores or imports the backups from cPanel accounts to Virtualmin?

  4. Demo is not working right now, we have tried yesterday and today, but still getting the message: “Service Temporarily Unavailable”.

  5. We are using an important application named Cloudflare to our customers, do you have the module or know this is under development? If yes, when ready?

Howdy,

Just wonder how much can Cloudmin handle VPS? Because we are planning to use a shared-hosting, and we will increase the VPS servers if we need more storage. So there is more easier for us to control the shared-hosting with just one control panel.

Hmm, I’m not entirely certain what you mean by how much it can handle VPS?

Cloudmin is designed for managing VPS’s though. Cloudmin GPL is designed to manage Xen and KVM VPS’s on one server.

Cloudmin Pro is designed to manage a wide variety of VPS types, across any number of servers.

Cloudmin for Physical Systems is designed to tie together the Virtualmin instances on multiple servers.

If we start with a Virtualmin right now, can we in future migrate from Virtualmin to Cloudmin?

Well, Virtualmin and Cloudmin solve different problems. So you wouldn’t leave Virtualmin, and migrate to Cloudmin. But, you can begin using Cloudmin down the road.

Both Cloudmin and Virtualmin are Webmin modules, and can work side-by-side, or you can use just one at a time… it depends what exactly you’re looking to do with them.

Possible restores or imports the backups from cPanel accounts to Virtualmin?

Yup! Virtualmin has an option to import cPanel backups.

Demo is not working right now, we have tried yesterday and today, but still getting the message: “Service Temporarily Unavailable”.

Thanks, we’ll look into that.

We are using an important application named Cloudflare to our customers, do you have the module or know this is under development? If yes, when ready?

There’s a number of folks using Virtualmin and Cloudflare. There’s nothing preventing the two from working together. However, there isn’t a Virtualmin module to install and configure it, that’s something you’d need to do outside of Virtualmin.

-Eric