# Module to manage Scheduled Jobs under Systemd **URL:** \ **Category:** Blue Skies\ **Created:** [June 16, 2026, 6:04am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433 "2026-06-16T06:04:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![Randomz](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Randomz](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/Randomz)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 6:04am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/1 "2026-06-16T06:04:33Z")

Cron jobs are pretty much disappearing and being replaced by Systemd timers which have more functionality like pre/post/deploy hooks. I think a module for managing this would be quite useful, it may not be long before the old cron jobs become redundant. ---

**Author:** ![stefan1959](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@stefan1959](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/stefan1959)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 7:50am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/2 "2026-06-16T07:50:28Z")

> [@Randomz](#): > > Cron jobs are pretty much disappearing What gave you that idea, has a OS said they dropping it. Cpanel still use it and have heard no news they dropping it. ---

**Author:** ![shoulders](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/user_avatar/forum.virtualmin.com/shoulders/32/10086_2.png) [@shoulders](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/shoulders)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 7:54am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/3 "2026-06-16T07:54:48Z")

whether cron is going away or not, maybe this is something that should be added to the todo list. It’s purpose does sound like it is the ultimate goal of `systemd timers` but this is the first I have heard of them, but I am a windows guy. ---

**Author:** ![jimr1](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/user_avatar/forum.virtualmin.com/jimr1/32/14173_2.png) [@jimr1](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/jimr1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 8:26am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/4 "2026-06-16T08:26:42Z")

> [@Randomz](#): > > it may not be long before the old cron jobs become redundant. The limitation of cron is it’s inability to run jobs at a frequency of less than a minute (unless you loads of `sleep 10` statements in the cron command line to make it run every 10 seconds). So if systemd timers can run at a frequency of less than a minute, I’m all for it. In my use case I coded my own cron service which allows me to run jobs at any frequency of over a second, but systemd can do it I would use that instead ---

**Author:** ![Randomz](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Randomz](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/Randomz)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 8:32am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/5 "2026-06-16T08:32:21Z")

Cron will be around for years, I am not advocating for it to be removed, just asking to keep up with what has been in use now for a couple of years. ---

**Author:** ![Randomz](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Randomz](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/Randomz)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/6 "2026-06-16T08:36:59Z")

Another thing is that on my servers that use certbot standalone - with no httpd server, I now have a pre hook that enables port 80 before certbot runs, then a post hook that disables port 80 after certbot runs. No need for port 80 to be open all the time. I couldn’t get that to work reliably using cron, but it was probably me that was the problem. ---

**Author:** ![Randomz](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Randomz](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/Randomz)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 8:42am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/7 "2026-06-16T08:42:07Z")

I also made a deploy hook that only runs after successful completion that copies the new LE certs to where webmin wants them, then restarts webmin in case I need to run certbot renew in CLI again. ---

**Author:** ![Ilia](https://cdn.forum.virtualmin.com/user_avatar/forum.virtualmin.com/ilia/32/10185_2.png) [@Ilia](https://forum.virtualmin.com/u/Ilia)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.virtualmin.com/t/module-to-manage-scheduled-jobs-under-systemd/137433/8 "2026-06-16T11:23:06Z")

> [@Randomz](#): > > I think a module for managing this would be quite useful, it may not be long before the old cron jobs become redundant. I’ve just finished working on a new Systemd Services and Units module that should be included in Webmin 2.650. It will support Systemd Timers and all other unit types supported by systemd. Details are here: > > > Hello Jamie! > > This PR adds a standalone Systemd Services and Units module for …managing systemd units across system and user scopes. > > The module keeps systemd-specific behavior separate from the legacy Bootup and Shutdown module and is implemented as standalone \`strict\`/\`warnings\` Perl code rather than depending on its existing init helpers. Those helpers intentionally smooth over multiple init systems, while this module keeps systemd-specific file handling, user-manager behavior, ACL checks, and control operations explicit, scoped, and easier to audit. > > It includes: > > \- Tabbed views for services, timers, sockets, paths, targets, storage, resources, devices, and user units > \- Guided creation and editing for common unit types, with contextual fields, validation, and help > \- User-scoped unit management with linger support and safe handling of home-directory unit files > \- Runtime actions for start, stop, restart, enable, disable, status, logs, properties, dependencies, and system-unit mask/unmask > \- Drop-in override inventory plus create, edit, and delete flows > \- Manual unit-file editing with daemon reload reminders and actions > \- Configurable module behavior, visible tabs, display options, and post-create navigation > \- Comprehensive ACL controls for system/user scopes, actions, manual edits, drop-ins, linger, reload, backup, and user filters > \- Safe Webmin user support through a scoped safe ACL preset > \- Virtualmin integration for granting domain owners access to their own systemd user units > \- Tests for unit generation, safety checks, ACL behavior, user-unit handling, backup coverage, and Perl::Critic compatibility > > A companion \[Virtualmin PR\](https://github.com/virtualmin/virtualmin-gpl/pull/1234) adds template integration so domain owners can be granted scoped access to their own systemd user units when this module is installed. > > Screenshots: > \ > \ > \\\